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	<title>Comments on: The bike, the scheme and the future of London&#8217;s cycle transport</title>
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	<description>Happily cycling in London</description>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are currently match funding opportuniites for businesses in London under the &#039;A New Way To Work&#039; scheme which can help businesses set up more facilities and resources to encourage more sustainable travel (including cycling)</description>
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		<title>By: Semionauten &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Radeln als Zeichen</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Semionauten &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Radeln als Zeichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] irgendetwas via Zahlencode mit meinem Handy zu kaufen. In anderen Ländern macht man sich ebenfalls Gedanken über passende Zahlmethoden. Komisch jedenfalls , dass ich die Dinger noch nie in Aktion, sondern lediglich vor Bahnhöfen oder [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] irgendetwas via Zahlencode mit meinem Handy zu kaufen. In anderen Ländern macht man sich ebenfalls Gedanken über passende Zahlmethoden. Komisch jedenfalls , dass ich die Dinger noch nie in Aktion, sondern lediglich vor Bahnhöfen oder [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hodges</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>London reconnections [link]http://londonreconnections.blogspot.com/[/link] is quoting a $250 CC hold, which sounds much more like it. If they really are theft-proof circa £100-150 wouldn&#039;t be an unreasonable recovery fee, providing for staff costs wihout Bixi/Serco going broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London reconnections [link]http://londonreconnections.blogspot.com/[/link] is quoting a $250 CC hold, which sounds much more like it. If they really are theft-proof circa £100-150 wouldn&#8217;t be an unreasonable recovery fee, providing for staff costs wihout Bixi/Serco going broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hodges</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look quite good solid bikes - heavy probably though. I think the 3-speed hub, hub brakes (&amp; hub dynamo lights I am assumming from photo) are a good city choice for easy cycling.

The anti-theft stuff sounds good - could they market the same system - minus the auto-lock perhaps) for our own bikes? I have scannable chips in my components but that&#039;s not as good as GPS trackers (as used in £50k+ cars)!

Agree with the 24-hour min hire being limiting. The small commercial operation, whose name escapes me, who have set up 50 odd stations of c 15 bikes so far, mainly in West Lodon suburbs &amp; unis, rents up to 1/2 hour. Also think they run via mobile phone credits - ideal for students. Perhaps 1/2 hour is not necessary but surely 2-3 hours / half-day is vital to attracty a casual / tourist crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look quite good solid bikes &#8211; heavy probably though. I think the 3-speed hub, hub brakes (&amp; hub dynamo lights I am assumming from photo) are a good city choice for easy cycling.</p>
<p>The anti-theft stuff sounds good &#8211; could they market the same system &#8211; minus the auto-lock perhaps) for our own bikes? I have scannable chips in my components but that&#8217;s not as good as GPS trackers (as used in £50k+ cars)!</p>
<p>Agree with the 24-hour min hire being limiting. The small commercial operation, whose name escapes me, who have set up 50 odd stations of c 15 bikes so far, mainly in West Lodon suburbs &amp; unis, rents up to 1/2 hour. Also think they run via mobile phone credits &#8211; ideal for students. Perhaps 1/2 hour is not necessary but surely 2-3 hours / half-day is vital to attracty a casual / tourist crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 3 GBP price tag seems prohibitive, and why would you want to rent such a bike for 24 hours anyway? The great thing about the Paris Velib scheme is that you can pick up a bike and use it free for the first half hour, which probably covers most trips. You hop on a bike, cycle to where you want to be, find the nearest docking station (there are plenty all over the place), leave the bike there, and you&#039;re done. If you then want to go somewhere else some time later, you check out another bike etc.
This ensures that the Velib bikes get maximum use and circulation, with minimum &quot;downtime&quot;. For the user, it means great flexibility and minimal hassle and worry (no need to lock the bike to a tree and worry about it being stolen or vandalized - as soon as it&#039;s docked back into the station you cease to be responsible for it of course, and it&#039;s free to use for the next person). Under the Montreal scheme described here I&#039;d be just as worried about my $1000 deposit as I would be about my own $1000 bike getting stolen, so what&#039;s the point?

I&#039;m a great fan of the Paris scheme, but the more I hear about the way London wants to implement it (if they do indeed want to copy Montreal), the more worried I get that it&#039;s being set up to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 3 GBP price tag seems prohibitive, and why would you want to rent such a bike for 24 hours anyway? The great thing about the Paris Velib scheme is that you can pick up a bike and use it free for the first half hour, which probably covers most trips. You hop on a bike, cycle to where you want to be, find the nearest docking station (there are plenty all over the place), leave the bike there, and you&#8217;re done. If you then want to go somewhere else some time later, you check out another bike etc.<br />
This ensures that the Velib bikes get maximum use and circulation, with minimum &#8220;downtime&#8221;. For the user, it means great flexibility and minimal hassle and worry (no need to lock the bike to a tree and worry about it being stolen or vandalized &#8211; as soon as it&#8217;s docked back into the station you cease to be responsible for it of course, and it&#8217;s free to use for the next person). Under the Montreal scheme described here I&#8217;d be just as worried about my $1000 deposit as I would be about my own $1000 bike getting stolen, so what&#8217;s the point?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a great fan of the Paris scheme, but the more I hear about the way London wants to implement it (if they do indeed want to copy Montreal), the more worried I get that it&#8217;s being set up to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: velorution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Dome?</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>velorution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Dome?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andreas has written a description of the Montreal scheme, run by Bixi, one of the partners of the winning London [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/bike-hire-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve - I found this weird also. I think what is meant is that they will have the ability to charge $1000 if the bike is not returned not that they will take 1000 as soon as you register.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve &#8211; I found this weird also. I think what is meant is that they will have the ability to charge $1000 if the bike is not returned not that they will take 1000 as soon as you register.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$1000 deposit on a credit card - interesting.  In London, this would mean two things:
- People would get charged interest/PPI on their cards for the shortest of uses, particularly those who have higher or more ruthless cards (i.e. those who probably don&#039;t have a car and are likely to use a hire bike).
- Students, many of whom don&#039;t have a credit card, contrary to popular belief, can&#039;t use it.

I guess they&#039;ll have to figure out a solution to that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$1000 deposit on a credit card &#8211; interesting.  In London, this would mean two things:<br />
- People would get charged interest/PPI on their cards for the shortest of uses, particularly those who have higher or more ruthless cards (i.e. those who probably don&#8217;t have a car and are likely to use a hire bike).<br />
- Students, many of whom don&#8217;t have a credit card, contrary to popular belief, can&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>I guess they&#8217;ll have to figure out a solution to that one!</p>
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